Looks like feminist Huffpo writer and blogger, Charles Clymer has fallen into their sights as "Not an ally."
https://twitter.com/hashtag/StopClymer?f=realtime&src=hash
Color me shocked, etc. We saw it happen in the atheist/skeptic community, the video game community, the comic book community. Feminism is female emotional bullying on a grand, organized scale. The kind of Lord of the Flies mentality where shouting "Boo!" gets people attacked.
I'm a tad surprised that with all the blaming of MRAs over the Elliot Roger incident, that they'd turn their hate on something else so quickly. But I guess they have enough free time to chase Clymer when they're not twatting on #yesallwomen about how the Patriarchy forces women to wear their hair long, or whatever shit they're spewing lately.
I don't know whether to feel sorry for Clymer. I do in a kind of "puppy dog fell into a nest of hornets" way, if he was into feminism for some chivalristic attitude. Then again, if he was in it for the attention, or the pussy, then I'll give him a Nelson Muntz "Ha ha!"
We'll see as more comes out. Looks like Clymer himself has batten down the hatches so far.
Saturday, May 31, 2014
He said Cunt.
The AVFM conference is in jeopardy due to death threats against the Detroit Hilton where the conference is scheduled to take place.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/AVFM-Security-Letter-REDACTED.pdf
I've watched a few vids, and read a few articles, like this one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/29/mens-rights-conference_n_5405300.html
This comment especially caught my attention. (No screenshots, my net connection is poor where I'm at right now, and it causes problems when I try to upload images.)
Avian Donn (aviandonn)
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Sisters, don't stand outside the conference with your little protest signs. Buy tickets and get in there. Listen to what's being said and challenge - as in debate, not randomly disrupt - as necessary. Trying to stop the conference makes you look thin-skinned, overly PC and censorial.
Sorry, but I was a pretty radical feminist in the sixties and seventies and attended conferences where women really vented their rage against men and it wasn't pretty. I don't remember a single time that men demanded that the place we were meeting cancel the conference. Sometimes they infiltrated and argued like crazy, or taunted or did get disruptive, sometimes they stood outside and taunted, but they never tried to shut the conference down. We can at least return that.
This is a very equalitarian viewpoint. If women have the right to get pissed off about men and society, then why can't men get pissed off about women and society?
Arguments about patriarchal privilege can go fuck off right now.
For illustration, I'll go ahead and post some infamous feminist quotes now.
The male is a biological accident: the y(male) gene is an incomplete x(female) gene, that is, has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion.... To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples. - Valerie Solanas
Only when manhood is dead - and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it - only then will we know what it is to be free. - Andrea Dworkin
Think about the double standard.
(No, Paul Elam didn't say cunt in that quoted article. I'm using the phrase to illustrate the pearl clutching over men saying naughty things.)
http://www.avoiceformen.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/AVFM-Security-Letter-REDACTED.pdf
I've watched a few vids, and read a few articles, like this one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/29/mens-rights-conference_n_5405300.html
This comment especially caught my attention. (No screenshots, my net connection is poor where I'm at right now, and it causes problems when I try to upload images.)
Avian Donn (aviandonn)
42
Super User · 1,071 Fans · My micro-bio is empty
Sisters, don't stand outside the conference with your little protest signs. Buy tickets and get in there. Listen to what's being said and challenge - as in debate, not randomly disrupt - as necessary. Trying to stop the conference makes you look thin-skinned, overly PC and censorial.
Sorry, but I was a pretty radical feminist in the sixties and seventies and attended conferences where women really vented their rage against men and it wasn't pretty. I don't remember a single time that men demanded that the place we were meeting cancel the conference. Sometimes they infiltrated and argued like crazy, or taunted or did get disruptive, sometimes they stood outside and taunted, but they never tried to shut the conference down. We can at least return that.
This is a very equalitarian viewpoint. If women have the right to get pissed off about men and society, then why can't men get pissed off about women and society?
Arguments about patriarchal privilege can go fuck off right now.
For illustration, I'll go ahead and post some infamous feminist quotes now.
The male is a biological accident: the y(male) gene is an incomplete x(female) gene, that is, has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion.... To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples. - Valerie Solanas
Only when manhood is dead - and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it - only then will we know what it is to be free. - Andrea Dworkin
Think about the double standard.
(No, Paul Elam didn't say cunt in that quoted article. I'm using the phrase to illustrate the pearl clutching over men saying naughty things.)
Sunday, May 25, 2014
Women do not owe sex to men.
True. And parents do not owe affection to their children.
Reading Elliot Rodgers manifesto has reminded me of the case of Genie, a girl who was kept in a room until age 13, given no affection, and abused.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_%28feral_child%29
No one owes anyone anything. But we can see that humans are social creatures, and that being deprived of affection causes severe emotional and mental issues. Genie is at the far end of that spectrum, and I imagine Elliot Rodgers is somewhere between there and the average person. No one owed him affection, no woman owed him sex, just like no parent owes their child affection, but somewhere along the line, Rodger's emotional needs were not getting met. This brings up the issue of involuntary celibacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise_Donnelly
The manosphere has blogged on this issue, of how the current social environment is trending towards more sex for fewer men, and women's heightened hypergamy driving them to choose only what they perceive to be the best of the best, leaving the average guy out in the cold. My previous blog post outlined my thoughts on the media instilling unrealistic expectations for men, to get a hot supermodel girlfriend by spend, spend, spending money on useless crap. Romcom movies often use highly unrealistic stories, and a lot of people seem to incorporate these fantasies into their expectations of real world relationships.
Reading Elliot Rodgers manifesto has reminded me of the case of Genie, a girl who was kept in a room until age 13, given no affection, and abused.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_%28feral_child%29
No one owes anyone anything. But we can see that humans are social creatures, and that being deprived of affection causes severe emotional and mental issues. Genie is at the far end of that spectrum, and I imagine Elliot Rodgers is somewhere between there and the average person. No one owed him affection, no woman owed him sex, just like no parent owes their child affection, but somewhere along the line, Rodger's emotional needs were not getting met. This brings up the issue of involuntary celibacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise_Donnelly
The manosphere has blogged on this issue, of how the current social environment is trending towards more sex for fewer men, and women's heightened hypergamy driving them to choose only what they perceive to be the best of the best, leaving the average guy out in the cold. My previous blog post outlined my thoughts on the media instilling unrealistic expectations for men, to get a hot supermodel girlfriend by spend, spend, spending money on useless crap. Romcom movies often use highly unrealistic stories, and a lot of people seem to incorporate these fantasies into their expectations of real world relationships.
Elliot Rodger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_massacre
Of course, the usual suspects are spinning this as evidence that the MRM are full of violent misogynists.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/24/1301671/-Elliot-Roger-Gunman-in-California-Mass-Shooting-was-influenced-by-the-Men-s-Rights-Movement
Or to use it to shame all of men, and prove that they are the One Good Man.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/24/santa-barbara-shooting_n_5384839.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada
I've skimmed Roger's manifesto (it's long) and read in full the last few pages leading up to his rampage. And I've formed a few preliminary thoughts.
Men no longer bond. In the modern, western world, we have no rite of passage. No mentors. No real mentors. Councilors and mental health professionals, except for some rare exceptions, are all indoctrinated in the modern feminist view of men and masculinity. Specifically, that masculinity is the problem. Often, both mother and father, in the increasingly rarer situations where both parents are not divorced, both work and have little time to shepherd their sons into the world of manhood. Not to mention the hordes of single mothers who have no clue how to relate to their son's needs as they pass that threshold into manhood. Instead, young men rely on the media, which only wants to suck their wallets dry with the promise of success, wealth and women, with video games (and I am a fan of video games myself, but this criticism needs to be made) which offer the virtual rewards of accomplishment that many young men lack in today's society.
There are fewer men in teaching positions. There is a severe lack of men to give the younger generation of men a realistic perspective on relationships, and what it means to be a man. What little there is for young men, is tainted with feminist inspired imaginings of what men are like. Shame and humiliation for their gender. Who would want that?
My impression is that Elliot Rodger had a skewed perception on women and relationships, fueled by the media blasting him with images of rich, successful men, banging away at supermodels, and he projected that twisted perception onto the people around him. He envied the young men whom he saw as getting all the fine pussy, and resented the women whom he thought denied him that fine pussy. There was no one to bring his lottery (he mentions the lottery many times, money and success, unrealistic expectations of life) fueled fantasies back down to earth. No men to relate to, to communicate these ideas with. The men in his life, I imagine, were far too blue pill to even attempt to reach him in a meaningful way.
Men, we need to band together once again. We have done it before, we can do it when building a skyscraper, or planning a campaign, or journeying across an ocean to discover new lands. The challenge in today's world is to band together with the goal of supporting each other.
I don't know if such an environment would have helped Elliot Rodger, but it might have. And I believe it's a topic worth thinking about.
Of course, the usual suspects are spinning this as evidence that the MRM are full of violent misogynists.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/24/1301671/-Elliot-Roger-Gunman-in-California-Mass-Shooting-was-influenced-by-the-Men-s-Rights-Movement
Or to use it to shame all of men, and prove that they are the One Good Man.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/24/santa-barbara-shooting_n_5384839.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada
I've skimmed Roger's manifesto (it's long) and read in full the last few pages leading up to his rampage. And I've formed a few preliminary thoughts.
Men no longer bond. In the modern, western world, we have no rite of passage. No mentors. No real mentors. Councilors and mental health professionals, except for some rare exceptions, are all indoctrinated in the modern feminist view of men and masculinity. Specifically, that masculinity is the problem. Often, both mother and father, in the increasingly rarer situations where both parents are not divorced, both work and have little time to shepherd their sons into the world of manhood. Not to mention the hordes of single mothers who have no clue how to relate to their son's needs as they pass that threshold into manhood. Instead, young men rely on the media, which only wants to suck their wallets dry with the promise of success, wealth and women, with video games (and I am a fan of video games myself, but this criticism needs to be made) which offer the virtual rewards of accomplishment that many young men lack in today's society.
There are fewer men in teaching positions. There is a severe lack of men to give the younger generation of men a realistic perspective on relationships, and what it means to be a man. What little there is for young men, is tainted with feminist inspired imaginings of what men are like. Shame and humiliation for their gender. Who would want that?
My impression is that Elliot Rodger had a skewed perception on women and relationships, fueled by the media blasting him with images of rich, successful men, banging away at supermodels, and he projected that twisted perception onto the people around him. He envied the young men whom he saw as getting all the fine pussy, and resented the women whom he thought denied him that fine pussy. There was no one to bring his lottery (he mentions the lottery many times, money and success, unrealistic expectations of life) fueled fantasies back down to earth. No men to relate to, to communicate these ideas with. The men in his life, I imagine, were far too blue pill to even attempt to reach him in a meaningful way.
Men, we need to band together once again. We have done it before, we can do it when building a skyscraper, or planning a campaign, or journeying across an ocean to discover new lands. The challenge in today's world is to band together with the goal of supporting each other.
I don't know if such an environment would have helped Elliot Rodger, but it might have. And I believe it's a topic worth thinking about.
Sunday, May 11, 2014
Selective Service
When I signed up, it was the late 80's. The Vietnam War wasn't so very long ago. Thinking back on it now, from a red pill perspective, I can articulate the subconcious feelings I had.
It's a subtle, but very powerful reminder that while society talks large about equality of the sexes, that it is still expected for men, in times of need, to die to protect women, who do NOT have to register.
I'm sure some men didn't spend much thought on the matter. But I'm also sure that many did, and many more took that reinforcement of their expected disposability to heart, and it affected their perceptions of gender expectations.
Nowadays, the draft is a distant memory. Wars are renamed "Operations", and Vietnam is an entry on Wikipedia. But it's still required, and it's still a reminder of exactly where men stand.
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