Erin Pizzey has noted that previous men's movements have failed due to infighting. From what I've seen following the MGTOW channels, it's happening there too. MGTOW criticizing MRAs, MRAs criticizing MGTOW, MGTOW criticizing each other. It's depressing at times. Debate is fine, people disagreeing is fine, but it seems like there's no real camraderie in the MGTOW movement. Men going their own way, and kicking each other in the shins on their way.
Is it the fate of any gathering of humans to devolve into infighting over social status and hierarchy?
There's a ton of camaraderie in the MGTOW movement. MGTOW and MRAs part ways on one major item. MRAs want to fix things so that men can have better relationships with women and not get burnt so bad in family court (by white knights/feminists), which in a sense is pu$$y begging - although not to the extreme of PUAs.
ReplyDeletemgtowhq.com is loaded with camaraderie. Search YouTube for MGTOW vids and read the comments sections if you want to see camaraderie among MGTOW.
Your conflating the differences between the philosophies as infighting when the philosophies are entirely different.
“MGTOW – Men Going Their Own Way – is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”
MGTOW see the whole patriarchy/matriarchy thing and want to vomit. Men were not created to be slaves to women, the government or anyone else. MGTOW strongly disagree with the cultural definition of what a man is and are reshaping things to that end.
These two videos explain what I've written:
The Disposable Male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMZRMFhbMsQ
MGTOW - Dangerous Waters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2B_K8h3wbQ